Man arrested for having too many bullets
 

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Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice He is held on $500,000 bail
By Paul Tennant
ptennant@eagletribune.com

HAVERHILL � Keni Garcia told police he intended to use the 30,000 bullets they found in his car and home for target practice.

That is hard to believe, the prosecutor at Garcia's arraignment said, because if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it.

Garcia, who allegedly bought thousands of rounds of ammunition and had 10,000 bullets in his car when he was stopped by police Thursday, was ordered held on $500,000 cash bail yesterday.

Attorney Socrates de la Cruz of Lawrence, who represented Garcia, 32, of 12 Freeman St., at his arraignment in Haverhill District Court, said he will appeal the high bail in Superior Court.

Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm. His case was continued until June 12.

Assistant District Attorney Christopher Holland asked Judge Patricia Dowling to impose $750,000 cash bail.

"He has no reason to stay here," Holland said.

The judge ordered Garcia to surrender his passport, and said that if he makes bail he is not to leave Massachusetts.

Garcia is a native of the Dominican Republic who was expected to become a U.S. citizen yesterday, but then he was arrested, authorities said.

Police arrested Garcia after he had left Interstate 495 at Exit 49 Thursday. They said they found 10,000 rounds of ammunition in his car. His two young daughters also were in the car, police said.

Holland said at Garcia's arraignment that a "joint effort" by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and state police found that Garcia had previously bought 20,000 rounds of ammunition in New Hampshire.

Garcia told police he only intended to use the bullets for target practice at a rifle range, Holland said, disputing Garcia's explanation. His common law wife, Elizabeth Reynoso, consented to a search and police found another 20,000 rounds, Holland said. They also found one .38-caliber and two 9 mm handguns, and $25,000 in cash, Holland said.

The prosecutor said all of the bullets seized from Garcia were for .38-caliber, 9 mm and .22-caliber firearms. Such ammunition is "like gold in the Dominican Republic," he said.

Holland said Reynoso told police he had "a shipping type of business" and that the $25,000 in cash must have come from Garcia cashing a business check.

"Where is the crime?" de la Cruz asked. The lawyer said Garcia had lived in New Hampshire for three years before recently moving to Haverhill.

"He bought the guns legally," de la Cruz said. "He never hid the fact that he had them."

Furthermore, de la Cruz said that when Garcia moved to Haverhill, he had a 60-day grace period to obtain a Massachusetts firearms card.

"There is no crime committed," he argued, saying there was no evidence that Garcia was shipping guns or ammunition to the Dominican Republic.

He asked the judge to allow his client "to go back to his job." He said Garcia has worked at a local bakery for three years.

Yesterday, Freeman Street residents interviewed by The Eagle-Tribune said they did not know anything about Garcia or guns and ammunition being stored at or shipped from his home.

Medline Abiles, of 43 Freeman St., who resides across the street from Garcia's house, said that in the two months she has lived in the neighborhood, she has not observed any weapons or ammunition and had no reason to be suspicious. Her sister, Carmen Reyes, who visits frequently, said she also had never noticed anything suspicious at the two-family house at 12 Freeman St.

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This country sucks more and more each day.

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$500,000 bail for what crime?

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They get the prize for being stupid.

NEVER consent to a search. Let them break the law by forced entry and the so-called 'evidence' is obtained illegally and thrown out of court.

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Hope they don't find GoldisMoney.info on his computer desktop.

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That's Mass. for you. They have a limit on the amount of ammo one person can own. It is one scary state. I have to take a shower after passing through Mass.

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hummm, bullets!

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What is the limit? (sorry if it was cited and I missed it)

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What ELSE would he do with 30,000 rounds BUT target practice?

Are they alleging that he planned to shoot 30,000 people??????

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3 weeks shooting once every 20 seconds , 8 hours a day.

So what? Over the course of a lifetime, an avid shooter will easily fire that many rounds.

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And to think our Founding Fathers did so much from Mass to ensure our "freedoms". They must be so proud of America now.:banghead:

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Massholes.

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I have seen a person walk out of a sporting goods store with a case 22 calibre bricks under each arm. That's 10,000 bullets plus. It sounds like so many but really it isn't. I wonder how many of this guy's bullets were .22. It is easy to make a good stash of .22s sound like an arsenal and I am sure the media uses this fact to push their agendas. :banghead:

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First off, the guy is not a citizen, and never should be. Second, why does he have $25k in cash? It sounds fishy to me. Lock him up for awhile and send him back home.

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If he's an illegal send him home. I'm good with that.

But "fishy" is not illegal.

Why does he have $25k? Why does he need a reason?

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The article states he was due to gain citizenship on Thursday.

Is there a problem with having 25k in cash? Maybe he was on his way to the coin shop.

The ammunition numbers are high, but again, what's the problem. What law did this dude break? If you want to become proficient with a firearm, you end up putting a lot of rounds through it. Back in the day, I would regularly put 500 rounds through a pistol in an afternoon.

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Burden of proof? Lock him up for being suspicious? Lock him up for having cash? You've been fighting the drug war too long, and have become part of the problem. "If people aren't living like I do, they're doing something wrong and should be locked up."

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You are under arrest. I think you have excessive cash in your pocket. Would you mind emptying your pockets?

Look, we can do this the hard way or the easy way. You work with me and I will help you.

If you have nothing to hide, then you won't mind emptying your pockets and letting me search your house.
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I am getting pretty disgusted that people even think that these police tactics are legitimate.

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Maybe he just didn't want to save the money in one of our countries outstanding banking institutions.:sarcasm:

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I am Fu*ked

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Maybe we could waterboard him to find out the truth...
Ooh! I got dibs on pulling out his fingernails!

Are you in MA? or are you just fuked generally like the rest of us?

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Just plain old Fu*ked

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That is about the sum of it!

Dave

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This is exactly what I thought. 20,000 rounds of .22 doesn't even take up much space, but the anti-gunners have images of multiple shelves full of ammo.

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http://www.goal.org/legislation/quickoverview.html

MA gun laws.

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It's not about the law, it's about the MONEY.

Re: Man arrested for having too many bullets
 

From another forum on this....

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There it is right there.

10,000 vs two cases.

Man.......Freedom loving and self protection people are in a WORLD of hurt.


T

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I know a guy who twice a year he and his wife would leave town and go somewhere to shoot for a weekend.

They would go through 5,000-6,000 rounds in a weekend. 9mm, .38 super and .45acp

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The PDF won't let me copy into the clipboard, but here is the relevant statute, with penalties:

http://www.ci.worcester.ma.us/wfd/pr...rms/527013.pdf

Under penalties, anyone who knowingly violates the law(refuses to get a license from the fire dept), the penalty is not more than 1 yr in jail, and not more than $1000 fine(misdemeanor). Otherwise, if you are just found to have "too much" ammo, it is a maximum of $100 and 1 month. This is a BS law, but luckily the penalties are pretty minimal. This just makes the $500,000 bail that much more excessive. I bet that the charges are ultimately dropped, but that he never sees his seized property again.

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If you have too much, keep just under the limit at your residence, and have your friends - parents - relatives -neighbors store it in these amounts for you too. This would be wise strategy even without the unconstitutional law that you would be following. Just in case you had to get your rounds or a rifle in an emergency, and couldn't go home. Also if you had a fire or home invasion/burglary, some of your stuff would survive as you would not have all of your eggs in one basket.

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Local PD just got a 'massive cache' of practice ammo donated courtesy of the law abiding public

T

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The problem with this guy was in the way he explained himself. He should have said "They are for lawful purposes only" and not a specific reason like 'target shooting'. Can't argue with that if he lives a law abiding life.

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Well, it looks like he was breaking the laws of his state. He had 10k-20k more rounds of ammo than what is allowed in his state.

That sucks to live in that state.

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This is what the law says: " A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Where does it say ?????? ,except for what kind of arm it is , what it looks like or how many rounds you can keep. ?????????? ?

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It's tragic, the number of people who have talked themselves right into a jail cell.

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hmmmmm, how about locking him up for being here illegally. I'm just saying that a person with that amount of cash on him, all those bullets, and he's an illegal... something just doesn't sound right.

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If he is an illegal, the 2nd might not apply to him, but it does not say the right of the citizens, it says people, so maybe it does apply to him. If he hasn't signed his rights away by having an SSN it could be argued that he has more rights than a citizen, but I wouldn't want to be the one arguing it. If he is smart he will not say one word to anyone but his lawyer.

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Where does it say anything about him being an illegal? In fact, if we was about to get his citizenship, it means that he has not only been here LEGALLY, but he was following all of the endless bullshit rules required to become a citizen... rules designed NOT to discourage proper citizenship, but to ENCOURAGE staying here illegally.

Dude got royally screwed, and should be a lesson to us all. Even here, you can see how easy it is to imply that the guy was up to no good and to push for his arrest and deportation. It's way to easy to rile the masses up against another. Once the precedent is established and set in stone, it makes it THAT MUCH EASIER for them to take the rest of us down... and make it sound in the press like they've taken "another wacko off the streets."

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Fiddlestix. Anyone happen to know what the legal limit for ammunition storage happens to be in Oregon?:confused_ma:

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It's a lot easier to tell the public the guy was a nuisance and a danger and a threat and then STEAL HIS STUFF (Items and Cash) than to just let him go about his business.

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I say we go down there & break him out !!! Who is with me?:sarcasm:

Ok kidding aside.............

Interesting & I wonder what the laws are...( just out of curiosity ) For a non US citizen as far as buying guns go?

Now will they screw him out of citizenship? They said he had been here working 3 years in a Bakery?

But yet he owns a shipping company?
Quite a few oddities but still I wonder
You know if he is typical he saw a chance to make a few $$ on all this mark up craze....seems like he was well on his way to being a real American :wink:

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Ditto......Ditto..........Ditto......wonder if there is a ammo limit in Missouri/ Arkansas?

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The guy was not born here. He worked in a bakery I would be surprised if he made 35,000 a year at the bakery?

They think he was exporting this ammo or that is what I would guess and I bet they think he has been doing this for some time?

So this guy, it looks like, is taking ammo out of this country. If he is exporting our ammo then he is stealing from every American that wants this ammo.

To me this is all gay ammo that mom and pop want. So if he is exporting moms and pops ammo, I'm surprised people on this site act like they are supporting him. Everyone knows Mass sucks but they were not on to him because he was a great guy.

He was and is not being watched (locked up) because he was a baker!!

I bet he was making a killing stealing mom and pops ammo? That area of Mass is where my some of my rich customers live. Doctor types.

I do not think it would be wrong to hang him if he was exporting mom and pops ammo.

People here are getting ready for a war or they would not be buying all the guns and ammo. imho

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Depends whether this part is true:

More than 10K rounds are allowed, provided you have a license.

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WTF??? Stealing??? You're full of it... there would be no difference if he shot it, or exported it. Besides, if he owned it, he can dispose of his property in any way he sees fit.

Mom and Pop's ammo? Did they buy it, and he broke into their basement? No, he bought it. What is with this progressive anti-property rights crap?

Besides, if they had any evidence whatsoever that he was exporting ammo, he would be in front of a FEDERAL judge, not a MA district court judge. This is pretty clearly a case of an anti-gun prosecutor and an anti-gun judge railroading someone for having the temerity to like guns. We want to support him, because next time, it could be any one of us(you too!).

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True...living in mass.....its like walking into a prison, then complaining, you got locked up!:rofl:
get the h*ll outta those states or dont cry when this stuff happens!

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If you read further down he isn't a legal citizen of the U.S. He was looking to obtain citizenship but was arrested before that could happen.

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and...whats the problem ?

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Too bad such a law exists there. In my book he was well on his way to becoming a great citizen.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I welcome people from non-free countries, who want to move here and buy a bunch of guns and ammo. That says to me that they don't plan on having their freedom stolen again...

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Are there any other states that limit the number of ammo you can have?

Limiting ammo is freaking ridiculious!

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I still think they think he was exporting it and that is the reason he was locked up.

He is not a citizen he had a lot of ammo and and cash plus he was not very bright moving to that state.

Get him out of here or hang him we need no more idiots here!!

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Shit I'm hearing hand gun ammo is forbidden in places?

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His attorney says he was within the law and it sure looks that way to me

His ammo matches his firearms, which an export biz likely would not = 22, 38, 9mm. And with ammo going up like it is, if I did much target shooting I'd buy that kind of quantity now, while I can. Ammo seems to be the current point of government attack on the 2nd.

Which reminds me I need more 22.

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I think you have misread the article. He was not an illegal, he was supposed to become a citezan while he as arrested. That tells me that at the least his application was in process. The problem with people is that they can't believe nor accept that others may live life differently (25K cash?)
You can never be free unless you accept others behavior, no matter how strange or foreign it may seem to you.
Just my 2 cents!